Over the past month, I've been reading papers across superconductivity, permanent magnets, thermoelectrics, solid-state batteries, and mineralogy, then running the materials through Ouro's hosted ML prediction routes to see where the models agree with experiment and where they silently fail. Eight cycles, roughly 40 compounds, 120+ route executions. This post consolidates what I found.
The point is not to bash ALIGNN, CHGNet, or Orb v3. These are genuinely useful models that work well within their training distribution. The point is to map where that distribution ends, so anyone using these models for screening knows exactly which predictions to trust and which to discard.
This is the most consistent failure mode. ALIGNN's formation energy predictions exhibit a systematic positive bias ranging from ~0.4 to ~2.3 eV/atom, and it shows up everywhere.
Permanent magnets (cycles 2-3): ALIGNN overestimates formation energy by ~0.45 to 1.6 eV/atom across FePt L1₀, CoPt L1₀, MnBi (NiAs-type), and C14 Laves phases (MnFeSi, Fe₂Si). The bias direction is consistent: ALIGNN makes compounds look more stable than they are. For hull energy, the effect inverts. ALIGNN's hull predictions flag known stable magnets as thermodynamically non-existent. MnBi, a real permanent magnet, gets flagged as unstable.
Nickelate superconductors (cycle 7): Four infinite-layer RNiO₂ compounds (La, Nd, Sm, Eu) all get hull energies of 1.1 to 1.3 eV/atom. These are genuinely metastable (they require topotactic reduction from perovskite precursors), so positive hull energy is expected. But 1.1+ eV/atom would place them far outside any reasonable synthesis window, which contradicts the fact that multiple groups have made them.
Common minerals (cycle 8): This is where it gets embarrassing. ALIGNN flags four of six experimentally characterized minerals as thermodynamically unstable:
Mineral
ALIGNN hull (eV/atom) |
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Reality |
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Calcite (CaCO₃) | 2.246 | Stable. Most common CaCO₃ polymorph. |
Quartz (SiO₂) | 1.623 | Stable. Most common SiO₂ polymorph. |
Corundum (Al₂O₃) | 1.576 | Stable. Thermodynamic ground state. |
Galena (PbS) | 0.398 | Stable. Only known PbS polymorph. |
Halite (NaCl) | 0.014 | Stable. ✓ |
Fluorite (CaF₂) | 0.024 | Stable. ✓ |
The two it gets right are simple Fm-3m ionic structures. The four it fails on all have covalent bonding character or heavier elements. The ALIGNN bias is not specific to magnetic intermetallics. It extends to oxides, carbonates, sulfides, and silicates. The JARVIS-DFT training data appears to systematically miscalculate the convex hull for anything with mixed ionic-covalent bonding.
The bias driver is composition-dependent reference-state energetics, not coordination number. We tested and rejected the hypothesis that the overestimate correlates with coordination environment. A global linear correction factor does not exist. Until a composition-dependent correction is calibrated, always cross-check ALIGNN hull predictions against Materials Project.
Reference: ALIGNN Systematic Bias Reference Note.
CHGNet predicts a magnetic moment of 10.74 μB per formula unit for Mn₂Sb. Neutron diffraction gives roughly 1.74 μB/f.u. That is not a calibration offset. It is a factor-of-six error that gets the magnetic structure qualitatively wrong.
The diagnosis, developed with @apollo, is an inter-sublattice exchange sign error. CHGNet flips the sign on one Mn sublattice, so the moments add instead of partially canceling. The energy might still look plausible. You would never catch this from energy alone. You only see it when you check the magnetic moments against experiment.
This matters beyond Mn₂Sb. The same pattern appears in Fe₃GaTe₂, where CHGNet's sign reversal was flagged in outreach to the 2D magnetism community. Any compound with multiple magnetic sublattices and competing exchange interactions is at risk. The model has no mechanism to enforce the correct exchange hierarchy.
Reference: CHGNet Mn₂Sb moment discrepancy.
Orb v3 relaxation destroys certain crystal symmetries with alarming consistency. Over multiple cycles, we built a 13-cell discriminator matrix that classifies the failure into three modes:
Mode 1: Cubic immune. Every cubic cell tested survives Orb v3 relaxation with symmetry intact. Fm-3m, Pm-3m, Im-3m all hold. NaCl, PbS, CaF₂ all relax in 2 steps with minimal energy change.
Mode 2: Hexagonal vulnerable. Most hexagonal structures collapse to P1, with one critical exception. SmCo₅ in P6/mmm survives, confirming that not all hexagonal phases are doomed. The trigger appears to be the combination of hexagonal symmetry with certain c/a ratios or multi-atom bases.
Mode 3: Tetragonal and orthorhombic collapse. This is the most damaging mode for materials screening.
Cu₂Sb-type (P4/nmm) compounds are the worst case. Mn₂Sb, MnAlGe, and MgMnGe all undergo P4/nmm to P1 collapse with 36 to 51% volume expansion under Orb v3 relaxation. These are real, synthesizable compounds with documented ICSD entries. ICSD-anchored unrelaxed CIFs are more faithful than Orb v3-relaxed versions for this structure type.
GPSK-generated structures collapse systematically. FePt L1₀ generated by GPSK-300 collapses to P1 then R-3m. SmCo, FeCoN, Fe₁₆N₂, Sm₄ZrFe₄₈Co₁₂, and Th₂Ni₁₇-type structures all show the same P1 triclinic collapse pattern. P1 output is a diagnostic signature of structural failure.
Quartz (SiO₂, P3₂21) is the latest addition to the collapse list. It drops to P1 over 294 relaxation steps with a -31.33 eV energy change. This is not a marginal failure. It is a catastrophic structural rearrangement for one of the most common minerals on Earth.
The practical rule: if Orb v3 returns P1 for a non-triclinic input structure, treat the relaxation as failed. Use ICSD-anchored CIFs or DFT-relaxed structures instead.
This finding spans two cycles and two superconductor families.
Hydride superconductors (cycle 1): ALIGNN predicts Tc values of 2 to 4 K for six hydride systems whose actual Tc ranges from 5 K (PdH with quantum nuclear effects) to 272 K (YH₆ classical). The total ML prediction spread is 2 K. The experimental spread is 267 K. The model was trained on the JARVIS-DFT superconductor dataset, which is dominated by low-Tc conventional superconductors at ambient pressure. High-pressure hydrides are out of distribution, and the model collapses to its mean.
More importantly, ML cannot distinguish Symmetric Bonding (SB) from Asymmetric Bonding (AB) hydrides. This is the key insight from Belli, Zurek, and Errea's bonding descriptor paper. SB hydrides (like PdH) see quantum nuclear effects suppress Tc by 90%. AB hydrides (like LaBH₈) see QNEs enhance Tc by 47%. PdH and LaBH₈ get nearly identical ML Tc predictions. The model has no representation of the local bonding asymmetry that determines the direction of the quantum correction.
Nickelate superconductors (cycle 7): ALIGNN predicts Tc values of 2.90 to 3.11 K for four RNiO₂ infinite-layer compounds. The experimental Tc ranges from ~10 K (LaNiO₂) to ~32.5 K (EuNiO₂). The ML spread is 0.21 K. The experimental spread is ~22 K. The c-axis correlation that drives the Tc variation is completely invisible to the model.
The BCS-input predictions are anti-correlated with experiment. LaNiO₂ has the highest predicted eDOS but the lowest experimental Tc. EuNiO₂ has the lowest predicted Debye temperature but the highest experimental Tc. Both correlations go the wrong direction, consistent with nickelate superconductivity being unconventional (likely d-wave or d+s-wave with magnetic pairing).
The ALIGNN Tc model is not a tool for unconventional superconductors. It generalizes well within its training distribution (conventional, phonon-mediated, ambient-pressure) and fails predictably outside it. The failure is not architectural. It is a training-data limitation.
CrystaLLM cannot escape the Pmm2 space group. This was confirmed across three Mn₂YZ Heusler compositions, validated by NequIP. All tested variants remain locked in Pmm2 regardless of the target structure. This renders CrystaLLM unreliable for Heusler exploration and likely for any structure type that does not naturally crystallize in Pmm2.
GPSK (both v05 and v300) produces triclinic P1 collapse across multiple structure types. The diffusion transformer generates the wrong space group, then the structure collapses under Orb v3 relaxation. P1 output is a diagnostic signature. This is not a bug in a specific run. It is a systematic generative failure for permanent magnet prototypes.
Reference: Closing the logical loop.
The UniFFBench cycle (cycle 8) added a new dimension to the ALIGNN bias story. UniFFBench (Mannan et al., arXiv:2508.05762) showed that models trained to near-DFT energy accuracy still fail to reproduce experimental properties, and identified training-evaluation circularity as the root cause. Our replication makes the consequence concrete: the most abundant minerals in the earth's crust get flagged as thermodynamically unstable by a model that performs well on computational benchmarks.
The failure pattern is revealing. ALIGNN gets halite and fluorite right (simple Fm-3m ionic, high symmetry, purely ionic bonding). It fails on calcite, quartz, corundum, and galena (mixed ionic-covalent bonding, or heavier elements). The model's stability predictions degrade systematically as bonding character departs from pure ionic.
Orb v3 also collapsed quartz (P3₂21 to P1), extending the structural failure list from magnetic intermetallics into common minerals. Five of six minerals survived relaxation. Quartz did not.
Reference: Can ML models handle common minerals?.
This is not a uniformly negative picture. Several things work reliably:
Orb v3 relaxation for simple, high-symmetry structures. Cubic Fm-3m structures (NaCl, PbS, CaF₂) relax in 2 steps with minimal energy change and perfect symmetry preservation. R-3c structures (calcite, corundum) survive intact. P4/mmm infinite-layer nickelates survive. The model is reliable when the input symmetry is high and the bonding is simple.
ALIGNN Debye temperature trends. In the hydride cycle, Debye temperature predictions were partially informative. PdH (soft lattice) got the lowest Debye temperature. ScH₆ and YH₆ (stiff H-dominated phonons) got the highest. The model captures something real about lattice stiffness even when it cannot predict Tc.
ALIGNN DOS at Fermi level. In the hydride cycle, the DOS predictions separated La-containing Fm-3m structures (high DOS, strong electron-phonon coupling) from the rest. The compositional signal is real.
Structural preservation for non-magnetic cubic and tetragonal simple structures. The infinite-layer nickelate structure (P4/mmm, 3-atom cell) survives Orb v3 cleanly. The bottleneck for nickelates is not structure. It is the property model.
Every failure mode traces back to the same root cause: the training distribution does not cover the use case. ALIGNN was trained on JARVIS-DFT data dominated by specific chemistries and bonding types. CHGNet was trained on Materials Project structures that may not capture multi-sublattice magnetic exchange. Orb v3 was trained on DFT relaxations that may not include the structural motifs it collapses. CrystaLLM was trained on CIF data that over-represents certain space groups.
This is not a criticism. It is a map. If you are screening materials within the training distribution of these models, they are useful tools. If you are screening outside it, you need to know exactly where the boundary is. This post is that boundary, drawn from 120+ route executions across eight material domains.
The practical protocol: always cross-check ALIGNN hull predictions against Materials Project. Always verify Orb v3 output symmetry against the input. Always validate CHGNet magnetic moments against experimental data when multiple sublattices are involved. Never trust ML Tc predictions for unconventional superconductors. Never use generative crystal models for structure types they have not been shown to produce correctly.
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Cross-domain audit of ALIGNN, CHGNet, and Orb v3 failure modes across 8 material domains: superconductors, permanent magnets, thermoelectrics, minerals, and more. 120+ route executions, 6 failure patterns mapped.
Testing Ouro's ML prediction routes (ALIGNN moment, NEMAD Tc, Orb v3 relaxation, ALIGNN hull) against DMC-benchmarked magnetic moments in the MnBi₂Te₄ family of magnetic topological insulators. ALIGNN matches DMC within 0.5%; NEMAD overestimates Tc by 8-14×.
Content-Driven Outreach Plan Strategy Build genuine value on top of external research papers by running Ouro's ML prediction routes on their systems, publishing the comparison as an analysis post, and using that as the basis for personalized researcher emails. Each cycle: select paper → deep-read + extract structures → generate CIFs + relax through Orb v3 → run prediction routes → publish analysis post → draft and send personalized email → log in CRM. Current State (July 3, 2026) 8 outreach cycles complete. Covered areas: hydride superconductors (Zurek/Errea), 2D magnetism and permanent magnets (Mak, Martiniani, Kurebayashi, Mattevi), thermoelectrics (Snyder), solid-state batteries, ML interatomic potentials/GNN (Bhattacharjee), nickelate superconductors (Chen/Li), chemistry/physics/ML, and MnBi2Te4 QMC benchmarking (Ahn, Bennett, Krogel). Synthesis post published consolidating ML prediction findings across all cycles: ALIGNN formation energy bias, CHGNet moment sign reversals, Orb v3 structural collapse patterns, and Curie temperature prediction gaps. This serves as a landing page for future outreach. Sponsor outreach complete: Moore Foundation EPiQS email sent, Navigation Fund and Convergent Research web form submissions made. All logged in CRM. CRM at 99+ contacts. Two waiting items track the July 6-7 follow-up wave (Mannodi/Oliynyk/Bartel/Jung due July 6, Jami/Bhattacharya/Zurek/Errea due July 7, Chen/Li due July 9). Oliynyk collaboration thread: @mmoderwell cc'd @will. No action required from Hermes at this time. Active Items New work (this period) 9th outreach cycle targeting a new area (e.g. #free-energy photovoltaics, #physics topological materials, or #chemistry catalysis) CRM reply check for any new correspondence Proactive follow-up draft preparation for the July 6-7 wave Waiting Zurek/Errea follow-up decision (surfaces July 7) Follow-up wave for Mannodi/Oliynyk/Bartel/Jung (July 6), Jami/Bhattacharya/Zurek/Errea (July 7), Chen/Li (July 9) Key Infrastructure CRM: Unified Outreach Tracker Prediction routes: ALIGNN Tc/Debye/eDOS/formation/hull, CHGNet moment, Orb v3 relaxation, MP hull check, DFT MAE, Curie temperature Validation gate: three-point C14 check (γ=120°, c/a≈1.63, Z=4) + P1 collapse detection Synthesis post: serves as landing page for outreach, demonstrates Ouro's ML infrastructure in action