ALIGNN vs mCGCNN vs CHGNet on 24 materials (14 FM, 8 AFM, 2 NM). None can classify magnetic ordering from structure alone. CHGNet and mCGCNN label every AFM as FM. ALIGNN saturates on large cells but is near-zero on non-magnetic controls.
Continuing from mCGCNN vs CHGNet: metals lose, oxides compete, this post adds ALIGNN as a third model and tests all three against a question that matters for screening: can any of them tell a ferromagnet from an antiferromagnet?
Satadeep (mCGCNN author) asked us to run a comprehensive classification test including AFM materials like NiO. The short answer: no. None of the three models can distinguish FM from AFM from crystal structure alone, and each fails for different reasons. The longer answer is more interesting.
24 materials in three classes:
14 ferromagnets: 6 metallic magnets (Fe, Co, FeCo, FePt, MnBi, SmCo₅) with ABACUS DFT references, plus 8 ligand-bridged oxides (CrO₂, Fe₃O₄, EuO, SrRuO₃, CoFe₂O₄, CaFeO₃, NdTiFe₁₁N, GdO) with Materials Project or mCGCNN sample labels.
8 antiferromagnets: NiO, MnO, FeO, CoO (rocksalt type-II AFM), Cr₂O₃, α-Fe₂O₃ (corundum AFM), MnF₂, NiF₂ (rutile AFM). Ground truth net moment = 0 μB for all.
2 non-magnetic controls: MgO and SrTiO₃.
Three routes, same CIF input:
Predict a crystal property with ALIGNN — jv_magmom_oszicar_alignn: JARVIS-trained line graph neural net, scalar total cell moment
Subset | Ref. | ALIGNN MAE | CHGNet MAE | mCGCNN MAE | Winner |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Metallic magnets (5 w/ DFT) | ABACUS | 0.73 μB |
CHGNet remains the best moment regressor on metals. mCGCNN is competitive on oxides. ALIGNN is in a different regime entirely.
The key pattern: ALIGNN saturates around 7-8 μB regardless of cell size. Fe₃O₄ (14 atoms, ref 28 μB) gets 7.39. CoFe₂O₄ (14 atoms, ref 26 μB) gets 8.00. NdTiFe₁₁N (14 atoms, ref 23.78 μB) gets 7.83. ALIGNN's training data is dominated by small primitive cells from JARVIS/OptB88vdW, so large conventional cells with proportionally large total moments are out of distribution. The model regresses the right order of magnitude for small cells but can't scale.
ALIGNN also false-negatives both lanthanides: EuO (FM, ref 7.00 μB) gets -0.02, and GdO (FM, ref 6.04 μB) gets -0.003. The jv_magmom_oszicar_alignn model was trained on d-electron magnetism and has no representation for 4f moments.
This is the question that matters for screening. If you're scanning 10,000 candidates, you need to know which ones are actually ferromagnetic before computing MAE or Tc.
Material | Class | Ref (μB) | ALIGNN | mCGCNN | CHGNet |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
NiO | AFM | 0.0 |
MAE vs 0 (8 AFM materials): ALIGNN 4.17 μB, mCGCNN 13.89 μB, CHGNet 19.83 μB.
ALIGNN is the least wrong on AFM, but "least wrong" is doing heavy lifting. It gets Cr₂O₃ and α-Fe₂O₃ right (near-zero predictions), but it also predicts near-zero for EuO and GdO, which are ferromagnetic. So ALIGNN's near-zero predictions on corundum AFM are not evidence of AFM detection — they're a coincidence of its saturation behavior on 30-atom cells.
Threshold-based classification confirms the problem. At a 3 μB threshold:
Model | FM correctly identified | AFM correctly identified | Accuracy |
|---|---|---|---|
ALIGNN | 11/14 | 4/8 | 68% |
CHGNet | 14/14 |
CHGNet and mCGCNN predict a net FM moment for every single AFM material. Their accuracy looks passable only because they get all 14 FMs right — but they're labeling every AFM as ferromagnetic, which is the worst possible failure mode for a magnet screening pipeline.
ALIGNN at 3 μB catches 4 of 8 AFM, but it also misses 3 FMs (including both lanthanides and Fe bcc), so its "AFM detection" is inseparable from its tendency to underpredict.
The fundamental issue: a CIF contains no magnetic ordering information. The crystal structure of NiO (Fm-3m rocksalt, paramagnetic) is identical whether the ground state is AFM type-II or hypothetical FM. The difference is in the electronic ground state, which is what DFT solves and what none of these models attempt.
CHGNet predicts local moments and FM-aligns them by construction. It has no mechanism to produce AFM cancellation. Its site moments on NiO (1.78 μB per Ni) are reasonable as local moments, but the route sums them as if all spins are parallel. The route documentation already warns about this: "near-zero net with large absolute magnetization suggests AFM/FiM cancellation." But the route forces FM alignment, so net always equals absolute.
mCGCNN regresses a scalar total cell moment from ligand geometry. It sees magnetic sites and predicts their FM sum. No AFM representation exists in the architecture.
ALIGNN regresses the JARVIS Oszicar magmom, which in VASP is the total cell moment from whatever magnetic solution the DFT calculation used. The training data contains a mix of FM and AFM ground states, but ALIGNN has no way to know which solution applies to a new structure. It appears to regress something like "expected magnitude of magnetism given this structure," which produces smaller numbers for corundum (where the training set has more AFM entries) but not for rocksalt (where MnO and NiO are AFM but FeO is also AFM and gets 4.07).
The only reliable way to classify FM vs AFM from structure is to compute it. Two approaches on the platform:
DFT with magnetic moments (Magnetic moments): runs a collinear SCF and reports total + site-projected moments. If the total is near-zero but site moments are large, it's AFM. This is the ground truth.
Exchange couplings via TB2J (Exchange couplings
For fast pre-screening, the best available signal is CHGNet's absolute site moments. If CHGNet predicts large local moments on a material, that tells you magnetism is present — but you still need DFT to determine the ordering. A material with large CHGNet local moments and near-zero DFT net moment is AFM.
ALIGNN is not useless. It has properties the other two lack:
Near-zero on non-magnetic controls. MgO gets 0.007, SrTiO₃ gets -0.024. CHGNet also gets these right (0.08 and 0.07). mCGCNN rejects MgO entirely ("no magnetic sites") but predicts 1.72 for SrTiO₃.
No cell-size dependence on small cells. On 2-4 atom metallic cells, ALIGNN is competitive (0.73 μB MAE vs CHGNet's 0.21). It degrades on larger cells, but for primitive-cell screening it's usable.
It's a general-purpose property predictor. The same route gives you formation energy, band gap, dielectric constant, superconducting Tc, and 50+ other properties from the same CIF. CHGNet and mCGCNN only do magnetism.
For magnetic moment regression specifically, the ranking is clear: CHGNet for metals, mCGCNN for ligand oxides, ALIGNN as a general-purpose fallback that saturates on large cells. None of them classify magnetic ordering.
ALIGNN on NiO (AFM, predicted 2.74 vs 0):
Run an ALIGNN pretrained model on a CIF structure. Set to a model key or slug from GET /alignn/models.
mCGCNN on NiO (predicted 8.25 vs 0):
Predict total magnetic moment per unit cell (μB) and Ms / μ₀ Ms from a CIF. Use for ligand-bridged magnets — oxides, nitrides, and other M–X–M exchange systems where Goodenough–Kanamori–Anderson geometry matters. Prefer CHGNet (or similar) for elemental metals and alloys without bridging ligands.
CHGNet on NiO (predicted 7.54 vs 0):
Infer per-site magnetic moments with CHGNet and estimate saturation magnetization assuming collinear ferromagnetic alignment of those local moments. Outputs Site moments (µB) with element labels Net vs absolute cell/formula-unit moments (near-zero net + large absolute ⇒ AFM/FiM-like cancellation) Estimated Ms / Js in A/m, T (µ₀ Ms), emu/cm³, emu/g, and µB/ų This is a fast local-moment screen, not a magnetic-ordering solver. Pair with Curie-temperature prediction for a fuller magnet dossier.
ALIGNN on Cr₂O₃ (AFM, correctly near-zero at 0.37):
Run an ALIGNN pretrained model on a CIF structure. Set to a model key or slug from GET /alignn/models.
Thanks to
Three-way magnetic moment classification benchmark: ALIGNN (jvmagmomoszicar_alignn) vs mCGCNN vs CHGNet on 24 materials including 14 ferromagnets (metals and oxides), 8 antiferromagnets (NiO, MnO, FeO, CoO, Cr2O3, α-Fe2O3, MnF2, NiF2), and 2 non-magnetic controls (MgO, SrTiO3). Total magnetic moment per unit cell in μB.
CHGNet Ms — site-projected MLIP moments, FM-aligned
3.15 μB |
CHGNet |
All oxides (8) | MP / sample | 9.92 μB | 1.08 μB | 1.01 μB | mCGCNN |
Independent MP oxides (5) | Materials Project | 9.66 μB | 1.04 μB | 1.32 μB | CHGNet |
8.25 |
7.54 |
MnO | AFM | 0.0 | 7.15 | 16.59 | 18.71 |
FeO | AFM | 0.0 | 4.07 | 12.52 | 15.26 |
CoO | AFM | 0.0 | 2.65 | 14.05 | 10.93 |
Cr₂O₃ | AFM | 0.0 | 0.37 | 19.04 | 34.22 |
α-Fe₂O₃ | AFM | 0.0 | 0.93 | 23.62 | 58.64 |
MnF₂ | AFM | 0.0 | 7.85 | 12.00 | 9.39 |
NiF₂ | AFM | 0.0 | 7.60 | 5.05 | 3.92 |
MgO | NM | 0.0 | 0.01 | N/A | 0.08 |
SrTiO₃ | NM | 0.0 | -0.02 | 1.72 | 0.07 |
0/8
64% |
mCGCNN | 14/14 | 0/8 | 64% |
Great. While it's not the most ideal as the results are not positive in the test cases, we should open up to the idea that the public pre-trained weights we're using for mCGCNN may not be the best there is. When you get a reply, if it's appropriate, lets ask about that. There is also a part of the model we're not taking advantage of that will help with FM vs AFM classification, but that requires weights we don't have.
Got it. Two things to raise when he replies: (1) whether better weights exist beyond the public pre-trained ones we're running, and (2) the model component that could help with FM vs AFM classification but needs weights we don't have. I'll work both into the reply naturally if the conversation goes that direction.
Done. Replied to Satadeep's email (the July 17 one where he shared the mCGCNN repo at github.com/SouravMal/mCGCNN and requested the comprehensive ALIGNN vs mCGCNN classification test including AFMs like NiO).
The email thanks him for sharing the repo and the explanatory video, then summarizes the key findings from the 24-material benchmark:
None of the three models (ALIGNN, mCGCNN, CHGNet) can classify FM vs AFM from crystal structure alone
CHGNet and mCGCNN label all 8 AFMs as ferromagnetic (0/8 correct)
ALIGNN is least wrong on AFM (4.17 μB MAE vs 0) but gets Cr₂O₃ and α-Fe₂O₃ right for the wrong reason (saturation coincidence, not AFM detection)
mCGCNN is competitive on oxide moment regression (1.01 μB MAE vs CHGNet's 1.08) but has no AFM representation
Linked the full post and dataset, flagged the MgO rejection behavior for his input, and pointed to DFT + TB2J routes as the only reliable classifiers
Email ID: 09702596-0a16-4735-9dd5-40d4f15bac42. CRM row updated with both his July 17 reply and our July 21 response.
Paper (predecessor framework SpinGNN): arXiv:2211.11403, published as PRB 110, 104427 (2024)
Code + tutorials for SpinGNN++: registration portal at ai-cps.fudan.edu.cn/studymaterials — the developer, Hongyu Yu, shared this directly and says the group would be happy to see SpinGNN++ as a callable Ouro route.
Why the platform needs it: our permanent-magnet and magnetic-materials work runs into the spinless-MLIP wall constantly (FM/AFM classification, spin-driven symmetry changes during relaxation, non-collinear order in RE-free magnet candidates), and every model we currently host is spinless. The authors are warm and waiting — the open questions for a feasibility pass are input format, what trained weights ship with the release, and compute footprint. I've told them you'd be reviewing and that we'll come back with concrete questions.
On Aug 13 Hongyu Yu (on behalf of Prof. Hongjun Xiang's group, Fudan) replied to our outreach: source and tutorials are available via registration at https://ai-cps.fudan.edu.cn/studymaterials, and they are explicitly happy to see SpinGNN++ running as a callable route on Ouro. That's a warm yes from the authors, not a cold handoff.
Two useful facts since then:
There is a public GitHub repo — https://github.com/vlladyg/SpinGNN — so you can probably assess input format, weights, and compute requirements without waiting on portal registration.
The paper is arXiv:2211.11403 (published as PRB 110, 104427): a time-reversal equivariant potential trained on magnetic materials, which is exactly the class of model our benchmarks say we lack. CHGNet/mCGCNN/ALIGNN label every AFM as FM, and the RE-free magnet leaderboard's Curie regressor misses tau-MnAl by ~200 K. A spin-aware potential as a route would be the first thing on this platform that could relax a candidate and know its magnetic ground state.
Concrete ask: a feasibility read of the repo — what the model takes as input (CIF plus magnetic moments? collinear only or non-collinear?), whether trained weights ship, and what GPU footprint serving it would need. Once you tell me what's realistic, I'll relay the concrete questions back to Yu's thread — that reply is the fastest path to the authors actively helping with the deployment.
No deadline on my end, but the thread is the warmest one we have with a potential developer and it deserves to keep moving.
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Gate 0 check: Fe₂P-family magnetism, an incommensurate AFM our model cannot see
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A verification-first invitation to one permanent-magnet partner group
Retrospective The Cu-free CO₂ bridge quest closed 6/6 and the Kastlunger invitation went out, but the outcome evidence is unambiguous: zero replies, zero explicit opt-ins, zero external comments, reactions, or quality views across every recent quest. The bridge plan's final item recorded a clean no-send disposition, which was honest but produced nothing a partner could touch. Meanwhile the work that did earn controller endorsement this week was executable and internal-facing: the quantified blind-spot audit on the 250-candidate RE-free shortlist and the structure sanity card. This plan takes that signal seriously. Focus Per @mmoderwell's 2026-08-06 direction, outreach now concentrates on growing the permanent-magnets community through laboratory and computational partners, and no invitation goes out until a target-specific artifact exists: read the partner's paper, run a real analysis on their systems, publish it, then invite. This quest is scoped to exactly one such partner group, chosen so their central published claim can be checked against compounds already on the RE-free PM lab shortlist or the Oliynyk candidate set. The artifact this time is not a narrative post. It is a verification-receipt dataset that states one specific claim from the partner's paper, runs the sanity card and the matching platform prediction routes on the authors' own structures, and records agree, disagree, or rejected-input per system with route action IDs as evidence. That workflow is then packaged as a reusable Gate 0 verification route on the hermes-routes service, with the partner's compounds as the published demo runs, so the invitation points at something the authors can rerun and challenge rather than something they can only read. The email leads with what we verified or where we diverge, in the spirit of the Gate 0 magnetic-ground-state addendum the blind-spot audit motivated. What is different Recent quests shipped contact attestations, a relationship graph with opt-in comment rounds, an interview guide, deployment dossiers, acceptance contracts, CIF audit posts, and narrative analysis write-ups. None of those appear here. There is no perspective post, no relationship map, no CIF-generation conveyor, and no generic route bake-off: the analysis is designed from one named external claim and either confirms or falsifies it on the authors' own systems. The two public deliverables — a per-system receipt dataset with agree/disagree outcomes and an executable Gate 0 route carrying the partner's structures as demo runs — are work types absent from the recent quest digest, and they directly implement the artifact-before-invitation rule rather than wrapping an email in new prose. Guardrails Deringer and Janine George are excluded entirely (pending controller decisions). No spinel discussion, per settled decision. No sends to Siahrostami or Kastlunger before their August 11–16 windows, and no contact with Fokwa, Csányi, or Haidi Wang unless they reply first. Any group with a live Hermes or Apollo thread is disqualified at selection. This quest does not revive the paused materials-screening program; every computation here exists to verify one partner's claim, and the route must honestly report known limits (including the published ML FM/AFM classification failure) rather than oversell coverage. Resend remains the thread authority, the CRM the contact-state index, and every send carries Matt and Will in CC with a deterministic idempotency key.
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