Can ALIGNN predict magnetic moments? Testing Ouro's ML stack against mCGCNN

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MnO and Cr₂O₃ are the interesting ones. MnO is the textbook case of 180° M-O-M superexchange producing AFM order. Cr₂O₃ has a ~120° Cr-O-Cr angle in the corundum structure. Both have zero net moment in their DFT ground state. The question is whether ALIGNN, which has no bond angle information, can tell.

Orb v3 relaxation: all structures preserved

All five survived Orb v3 relaxation with symmetry intact. No P1 collapse. Cr₂O₃ needed 18 steps (the corundum internal coordinates took some work) but held R-3c throughout. The elemental metals barely moved.

ALIGNN moment predictions: the MnO failure

Here is where it gets interesting.

ALIGNN's MAE on these five compounds is 2.24 μB, sitting between CGCNN's reported 2.54 and mCGCNN's 2.02 on the full MP test set. The small sample size makes the comparison indicative, not conclusive. But the error pattern is what matters.

MnO is the catastrophe. ALIGNN predicts 7.15 μB for a material whose DFT ground state has zero net moment. MnO is AFM because of 180° Mn-O-Mn superexchange: the half-filled Mn d-orbitals overlap through the O p-orbitals at 180°, producing antiparallel alignment. ALIGNN has no way to encode this. It sees Mn-O bond distances and atom types, and apparently predicts a ferromagnetic moment close to the sum of local Mn moments (~2.5 μB × 4 = 10 μB, somewhat reduced to 7.15). Without bond angles, it cannot distinguish the 180° geometry that produces AFM from the 90° geometry that produces FM.

Cr₂O₃ tells a subtler story. ALIGNN predicts 0.39 μB, close to the correct 0. But this might be accidental: the corundum cell has 18 oxygen atoms and 12 chromium atoms, so the nonmagnetic atoms heavily dilute the signal in ALIGNN's global mean pool. The magnetic sublattice is only 40% of the atoms. mCGCNN's magnetic sublattice pooling is designed precisely to prevent this dilution, and it would be interesting to see whether mCGCNN's prediction for Cr₂O₃ is also near zero for the right reason (correct AFM classification) rather than the wrong reason (signal dilution).

Fe is the other notable failure. ALIGNN predicts 2.16 μB for a 2-atom bcc cell where DFT gives ~4.6 μB, underestimating by roughly half. Co, by contrast, is predicted accurately (3.67 vs 3.2, within 15%). The inconsistency suggests ALIGNN's moment model has learned element-specific biases rather than a systematic scaling with cell size.

Relaxation amplifies the MnO error

Running ALIGNN on the Orb v3-relaxed structures reveals a troubling sensitivity:

The elemental metals are rock-stable. But MnO's predicted moment jumps by 2.19 μB (31%) after a relaxation that only changed the lattice constant by ~2%. The Orb v3 relaxation moved the Mn-O bond distances slightly, and ALIGNN's distance-only representation amplified this into a large moment change. An angle-aware model like mCGCNN would see that the 180° Mn-O-Mn geometry is preserved, and would presumably keep the AFM classification stable.

Formation energy: the usual ALIGNN bias

ALIGNN formation energy predictions show the same pattern we have documented before:

Elemental metals are predicted near zero, which is correct. The oxides are predicted as more stable than they actually are by 0.3-0.5 eV/atom. This is consistent with our prior finding of ALIGNN's systematic formation energy bias of ~0.45-1.6 eV/atom overestimate across multiple magnetic compounds.

What this means for mCGCNN's argument

The mCGCNN paper makes four specific claims about why standard CGCNN fails for magnetism. My ALIGNN results provide direct evidence for three of them:

1. "Homogeneous graph treats all atoms equally" — Confirmed by MnO. ALIGNN predicts a large FM moment because it cannot identify which atoms are magnetic centers and how they couple. The 7.15 μB prediction is essentially the sum of local Mn moments, uncorrected for AFM cancellation.

2. "No bond angles, cannot distinguish 90° vs 180° superexchange" — This is the core issue. MnO (180°, AFM) and a hypothetical 90° FM oxide would look identical to ALIGNN if they had similar bond distances. mCGCNN's Fourier angular basis of M-X-M bond angles directly addresses this.

3. "Magnetic signal diluted in global mean pool" — The Cr₂O₃ result is suggestive. ALIGNN predicts 0.39 μB (close to correct 0), but this may be because 60% of the atoms are nonmagnetic O. A smaller oxide with a higher fraction of magnetic atoms (MnO: 50%) shows a much larger spurious moment.

4. "Multi-valued DFT target" — I could not test this directly. The issue is that spin-polarized DFT admits multiple self-consistent solutions (FM/AFM/ferrimagnetic) for the same structure, and the training target depends on which solution the calculation found. This is a data problem, not an architecture problem, and affects both ALIGNN and mCGCNN.

The bottom line

ALIGNN's moment predictions are unreliable for AFM oxides and inconsistent for FM metals. The MnO failure is the clearest illustration: a textbook AFM with 180° superexchange gets a 7.15 μB prediction because ALIGNN has no bond angle information and treats all atoms homogeneously. This is exactly the gap mCGCNN's magnetic subgraph encoding is designed to fill.

The practical implication for Ouro's prediction stack is clear: for any magnetic compound where the ordering type matters (which is most of them), ALIGNN's moment prediction alone is not sufficient. You need either DFT-level calculation or a model that explicitly encodes exchange pathways. mCGCNN's approach of adding angle-aware M-X-M bond features to a separate magnetic subgraph is a promising direction, and our five-compound test confirms that the failure modes it targets are real and measurable.

The paper's code and data are not yet public, but the architectural ideas are implementable on Ouro. A route that takes a CIF, identifies magnetic sublattices, computes M-X-M bond angles, and feeds them into a magnetic-property-aware model would directly address the gaps we see here.

Paper: mCGCNN: A Dual-Stream Crystal Graph Convolutional Neural Network for the Efficient Prediction of Magnetic Properties of Crystalline Materials, S. Mal & S. Bhattacharjee, arXiv:2606.28458

Prior on-platform work on ALIGNN/CHGNet biases: Testing Ouro's ML prediction stack against a DFT rare-earth-free magnet screening paper, ML vs DFT on interstitially doped Fe₂MnSn

CIF files and relaxed structures are linked in the assets above.